Reloading steel cases boxer primed page 2 reloading. Converting berdan primed brass to boxer primers gun and. It was not talk that was backed up by anything solid, afaik. Sort by position name sku price velocity avg ballistic coefficient power factor sku set descending direction. So, it helps to take a quick moment to understand these parts of a cartridge. This ammo is brass cased, boxer primed, and 100% noncorrosive. My latest tinkering has led me to try something new. One of the cost variables is the number of times brass can be reloaded. Berdan and boxer cartridge primers are both considered centerfire and are not interchangeable at the primer level. I have a ton of this stuff and figured it would be cool if it could be done. Reloading steel cases how to reload steel case ammo. Boxer primed ammo, has one centrally located flash hole. Reloading handbook, the shooter will find data for both the newest short magnums and old.
Trying to seat a boxer primer in a case designed for berdan primers will likely just detonate the primer during seating. Never tried aluminum myself, can t see why it wont work. Also, this stuff is everywhere since people always throw it away. I agree with the collective group that you should just buy boxer brass. Boxer primers contain a small metal anvil which works with the firing pin in the rifle to compress the priming compound, causing it to ignite. Nov 03, 2008 yes, with a special hand held tool you can. Indoor ranges prefer boxerprimed with a brass casing, but this can vary depending on where you. Any and all recipes, techniques, and data are to be used at your own risk. As is the case with all new brass, its recommended that you resize the neck before loading to ensure that you have consistent neck tension. The boxer primers have the anvil integral to part of the primer.
Boxer and berdan primed brass, description contest. These are going to be the perfect cases for times when you cant or dont want to pick up brass. Any and all equipment, materials, and data mentioned on our boards are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to promote or endorse any particular products or technique. If they dont, the reason is likely related to the reloading issue. I think i got the cases from but can t say for sure.
There are many reasons for this, including the fact that boxer is more common in the u. I have reloaded not quite a ton of pmc brass, all of it in. Berdan brass can be modified to use boxer primers, but the problem is berdan primers rely on an anvil inside the brass primer pocket in the center of the pocketreason there are two flash holes. Reloading steel cases boxer primed page 1 reloading. This is a discussion on converting berdan primed brass to use boxer primers. Berdan primed ammo has to opposing flash holes closer to the edges of the primer cup hole. You need special tools to deprime the brass after it has been fired. You can almost count the number of dents to determine how many times the brass has been reloaded. Boxer primed is the us standard for ammo and brass. Scrap brass prices being what they are it makes more sense to just sell it and pick up boxer primed at the local range from the non reloaders. As most reloaders are aware, there are two basic types of rifle cartridge primers. We asked if they read the bold print on the website in several places that stated, these include both commercial and military casings nato in mm. Boxer primed ammo is not as common outside of the united states due to the affordability of berdan primed ammo and restrictions on home reloading in many european countries.
Nickel plated brass is just thatit is regular brass that covered by a thin layer of nickel through electroplating fun random fact, as of the end of 20, it costs 9 cents to produce a us nickel coin which is 25% nickel and 75% copper. Can we create a stick on good vs bad brass to reload. You can certainly reload berdan primed cases, though it tends to be a lot of. As i bought that brass decades ago some has upwards of ten tiny dings in it. This makes it easy to punch out the old primer with a simple pin punch. I have lots of 9mm berdan brass can i convert to boxer. Whats the difference between berdan vs boxer primers. What about using pulled down brass archive cmp forums. Converting lr berdan primer pockets in brass milsurp cartridges to sr boxer primer pockets over the years ive thrown away i dont know how many thousands of very good brass cases of 7. We could just have people post their experiences and update a top level message. Person called complaining that they had some boxer primed brass after ordering 2235. Why is it so difficult to reload berdanprimed brass.
If your pickup brass is ok not wet, not rusted, after reloading you better store it in a rustproof environment before shooting it. Once fired brass at,reloading supplies,once fired brass reloading cartridge cases,pin polished,rifle reloading brass and pistol components. We accept no responsibility for the use or misuse of any. Used both 9 and 45 in mixed brass batches, never noticed a difference in the reloading or firing of them unlike amerc. Once fired brass that can and cannot be reloaded the. Depending on the alloy it may split quickly or work harden like brass after a few reloads, but certainly less durable than brass.
However, its much easier to simply use the proper case with the proper primer. Reloading steel cases boxer primed read 6747 times sqlbullet. The talk i have heard is that blazer brass is thin. If you get any lc52 brass, look into all empty cases with a flashlight before your deprime to make sure it is boxer primed. The major difference between boxer and berdan primers has to do with flash holes and the.
Handloading reuse is an advantage for rifles using obsolete or hardtofind centerfire cartridges such as the 6. The european designed boxer primer type case has become. Dec 31, 2012 used both 9 and 45 in mixed brass batches, never noticed a difference in the reloading or firing of them unlike amerc. He mentioned a super strong decapping pin from that would even punch out berdan primers. Feb 01, 2010 in this video, we discuss the difference between berdan and boxer primed brass. All the blazer aluminum ive loaded was boxer primed. There is really only one reason most reloaders would even consider reloading berdanprimed cases anymore, and that is the unavailability or expense of boxerprimed cases for a particular chambering. I have over 1,000 pieces of once fired range brass that i just asked for. The boxer priming features 1 centered flash hole, and the primer has its own built. In this video, we discuss the difference between berdan and boxer primed brass. Cant speak for longevity, only fired them 23 times at most. Its the best brass that i have ever worked with in reloading.
Also, ive had some federal and starline brass crack, lengthwise. Most factory ammunition and all reloaded ammunition is boxer primed and usually, although not always, brass cased. Xtreme brass offers the reloader a wide variety of choices in high grade brass cases. Those were the good old days i could sometimes get bulk lots of primed, nickelcoated. I used to even reload a lot of questionable brass tarnished, bad dents, worn out, etc.
It is a bit stouter, heavier, thicker in my experience too so you might have to mind your charges a bit more than in a lighter, thinner walled case as you have less powder space and pressures can quickly creep up on you. Aug 03, 2015 in this video, we discuss the difference between berdan and boxer primed brass. Remanufactured xtreme brass goes through several rigorous steps to ensure you are getting a quality component at a great price. A bunch of it had the mouth of the case badly dented and nearly closed. I also know a guy who says he has reloaded in blazer alum cases. Jun 04, 2009 yes, berdan primed ammo can be reloaded, but it is strongly recommended that you do not.
New brass cases are made in our idaho facility to saami specifications, and are available either unprimed or primed. With the prvipartizan rifle brass in 6,5mm swede some have reloaded this high quality brass up to 15 to 20 times and maybe more by now. If you plan on spending a lot of time at a shooting range, first ask if they allow it. The major difference between boxer and berdan primers has to do with flash holes and the anvil. Boxer primer is the most popular primer style in the united states, due to its ease of reloading also making it the primary choice among military and civilian ammo manufactuers. Also think about using hodgdons lilgun powder for your m1 carbine. I think i got the cases from but cant say for sure. Ill have to plan ahead and see if i can get away sometime in the afternoonevening. Boxer cases dont accept berdan primers and vice versa, which is due to the anvil being a permanent part of the berdanprimed case. The flash hole is essentially the channel through which the. The expensive individual brass cases can be reused after replacing the primer, gunpowder and projectile. Can t speak for longevity, only fired them 23 times at most. I have brass thats been fired in my 10mms, glocks and 1911s, thats been reloaded well over 10x, as i stopped counting after that.
There is really only one reason most reloaders would even consider reloading berdan primed cases anymore, and that is the unavailability or expense of boxer primed cases for a particular chambering. Created by edward boxer, this popular ammo was patented in england in 1866 and in the u. Diamond k brass llc now offers a small variety of brand new primed rifle brass and factory pull down primed rifle brass. The brass is full length sized back to factory new saami specs, the primer pockets are reamed, then it is checked and washed using the latest technology available only to the xtreme brass and freedom munitions line of ammunition. I have been led to believe that hornady brass can be reloaded twice, while lapua brass can be reloaded 5 times. Could we create a sticky that would list calibers and everyone could chime in about headstamps considered good or bad.
The primer itself has a cup and anvil and the primer pocket in the case has one flash hole in the center of the pocket. This is current production ammo that they had left over after they had met their contract terms. The first gun chambered for this cartridge, however, was actually the rpd light machine gun. In order to get a good seal when you decap the tool must be a good snug fit. After reading this i wonder how there handgun brass is too. I had a tool made from 14 steel rod that exactly fit the case mouth a little sandpaper on the spinning rod with a hole in the business end to. Although i would give you an a for effort i think i would just try and find the boxer brass i needed. I recently bought some military surplus once fired 308 brass.
Converting berdan primed brass to use boxer primers. Our videos are strictly for documentary, educational, and entertainment purposes only. I suspect this was perhaps a police overrun contract. They are factory pull downs that are ready to reload. This reloading issue is one of the main reasons shooting ranges almost exclusively use boxer primers and brass casings. Not that i recommend actually trying to reload berdan, just that those hardened pins will plow right through berdan primers, thus saving you replacing the standard fragile pin in lee universal decappers in case you accidentally try to reload berdan.
Flash holes are the holes in the base of the casing between the primer recess and the space for the powder load. Pulled may contain minor dings pulled may contain minor dings. Never tried aluminum myself, cant see why it wont work. Tools to reload berdan primed brass gone outdoors your. If you reload, you will likely discover that using boxerprimed casing is far more convenient and accessible than berdan. The only thing you have to do with any brass is inspect it first to make sure there are not smiles near the case head from highover pressure loads. This has had the result of making berdan primers expensive and hard to find in the usa. The difference between boxer primed, and berdan is that a boxer type primer is centered over one hole in the cartridge case. Here is the only tool i have used in decapping the brass. Mar 22, 2018 person called complaining that they had some boxer primed brass after ordering 2235. The original 9mm luger in 1902 was designed to be reloaded a maximum of 9. They are ideal for both commercial reloaders and those who use reloadable brass casings for.
It has a single hole in the base of the brass to ignite the powder charge. Choosing your case is a critical step in reloading, so let midsouth help you get the pistol reloading brass you need, at the best price from brands like hornady, magtech remington, and more. Yes, berdan primed ammo can be reloaded, but it is strongly recommended that you do not. Mar 11, 20 all the blazer aluminum ive loaded was boxer primed. With that being said, reloading enthusiasts can get them to work with each other through a labor intensive and rather complicated process. Indoor ranges prefer boxerprimed with a brass casing, but this can vary depending on where you live and the range operators opinions. Yesterday, i went to a local gander mountain store and was asking a guy behind the counter about primers for brass. The most popular primer style in america, boxerprimed ammo is perfect for reloading since the boxerstyle primer is easily removed and replaced. Blazer brass quality for reloading northwest firearms.
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